NOTES ON THE CAMELFORD TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF 19th
SEPTEMBER 2006
Present : Cllrs Finch (chair), Lush, Ireland, Pierce, Shaw,
Williams, Elford. B Jordan (clerk), Cllr Clark absent
Public Participation
A letter has been received from Mr Samuel which will be on
the public participation items of 5 October meeting.
- APOLOGIES from B Grills, L Crockford and J Sanders.
Acceptance proposed by D Pierce, seconded B Lush, all in favour.
- DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
- B Lush 13a personal (blue badge holder), 17a
personal (B Lush said he had been advised to declare a personal
interest, not speak in the debate and not vote). B Ireland 11d,
friend.
- MINUTES
- 3 August 2006, deferred from the meeting of 7
September 2006 - B Jordan said that item 6b, B Lush had asked to have
included that D Pierce said his (B Lushs) statement had sounded like
electioneering, but D Pierce apologised unreservedly when challenged.
With this addition A Shaw proposed acceptance of the minutes, seconded B
Lush, all in favour.
- 7 September 2006 B Lush said that during public
participation Mr Huntley had made comments regarding the council. J
Finch asked if anyone had any problem with this being added. Also, B
Lush had asked that posting agendas on the website be included in the
meeting of 19 September. B Jordan said they are now going out to all
the websites. B Ireland started to ask for some additions to the
minutes, but J Finch brought down the gavel, saying it was not
important. D Pierce agreed with her and said it was not important. The
clerk said that B Ireland had had the minutes since the previous
Wednesday. B Ireland explained that he had been at the finance meeting
all day Thursday, away from Friday to Sunday, in hospital on Monday and
had finally looked at the paperwork on Tuesday (the day of the meeting).
A Shaw said that all that was required was to ratify that the general
context of the minutes are true and in the spirit of the meeting. B
Ireland said that the council would see in due course that it is very
important that the minutes are accurate. D Pierce said , as he had said
earlier in the year, that we (council) are not Hansard and do not have
the benefit of someone taking shorthand. We spent nearly 40 minutes
bleating on about the minutes at the last meeting he said, and he
thought that the meeting should move on and stop bleating about the
minutes. A Shaw proposed acceptance of the minutes, D Pierce seconded,
4 in favour, B Lush and B Ireland against (asked to be named), M
Williams abstained.
- MATTERS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING
- .gov.uk date for meeting 26 September confirmed,
at council offices in College Road, for councillors to have a look and
see what it is about. 4 5 pm.
- Chapel Street J Finch proposed this be removed
from the agenda. B Lush asked for it to be left on the table all in
favour.
- Traffic Monitoring J Finch said she had spoken
to Oskar van Winden today, phase two of the pedestrian safety scheme
will now be January/February 2007. NCDC does not like the new street
lights and this could mean new planning consent. No cameras will be
installed. Bollards will go ahead, but no island to be installed.
Traffic lights at the top of the town were talked about and Oskar agreed
to bring the subject up again. Monitoring of flow to continue during
the quiet season. He has spoken to Tesco and asked if their lorries
need to go through Camelford.
- Brown Information Signs no more information.
- Town Infrastructure nothing from NCDC
- Grit Bins awaiting reply
- Medical Centre Community First will have a
public meeting, but until plans are available they do not see any point.
- ANSWERS TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION 7 SEPTEMBER 2006
none
- TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILLORS OF WHICH NOTICE
HAS BEEN GIVEN none
- ITEMS REQUIRING A DECISION
- Camelford Carnival, request for free parking
permits. B Lush said that last year this had been refused, but
apologised that he was mistaken when J Finch pointed out that on page
70/2005 council had decided to give free parking for residents for the
week. M Williams said that the permits were issued from the office. J
Finch said it would run from 30 October to 4 November inclusive.
Residents to prove residency and collect permits from the council office
on 27 October 2006. D Pierce proposed that free parking be provided on
the same basis as last year, seconded S Elford, all in favour.
- Restormel Borough Council, democracy declaration
for Cornwall B Lush said he thought this would be replacing one kind
of bureaucracy for another. A Shaw proposed, M Williams seconded that
it be left on the table, all in favour.
- Cllr Lush, Valley Truckle roundabout he said
that there had been problems this summer getting onto the A39 and with
50 more houses there will be extra traffic. On this side of the bridge
at Wadebridge a sign directs heavy traffic through Camelford. Would the
county council look and see what they can do because this will not get
any better. A Shaw said that if the distributor road has been put on
hold any major road improvement would prolong the agony and the building
of a business park for industrial use. The more the aggravation the
more the motivation to make a decision. J Finch asked if Highways
should be asked to remove the sign at Wadebridge. D Pierce said that
during the presentation about the pedestrian safety scheme it had been
admitted that it would do nothing for the traffic problems in
Camelford. The worse the traffic the greater the case for the
distributor road. There is no solution. A mini roundabout would work
and do a temporary job, but we have to look at the system and the safety
of people. A roundabout would be the cheaper option. J Finch asked if
council should write. M Williams said that putting in a roundabout
would encourage more people to use the road and was the sign in
Wadebridge permanent? J Finch said it was. J Finch proposed that
council write to Highways at Cornwall County Council asking if the sign
will be removed when Gossmoor is finished and if not would they consider
putting a small roundabout in the 30-mile an hour limit, seconded B
Lush, 6 in favour, A Shaw abstained.
- Cllr Lush, preservation of benches J Finch said
she had been told that this work is being carried out.
- Cllrs Pierce and Shaw, bus stop seats since the
demise of the bus shelter but the reinstatement of the bus service D
Pierce said he thought there should be a seat, nothing fancy. He gave
dimensions of one which would not intrude onto the pavement. A Shaw
asked that the seat be removed from outside Lloyds Bank and NCDC be
asked to locate it set into the bank on Clease car park. Permission
will be needed from NCDC, and B Jordan added that it may need planning
permission. B Lush said that planning permission may still be in force
in that area, for which D Pierce thanked him. M Williams said that
council should go ahead and do it. Proposed by D Pierce, seconded B
Lush, 6 in favour, B Ireland abstained. A Shaw proposed that NCDC be
asked to relocate the seat, seconded S Elford, all in favour.
- ITEMS FOR INFORMATION
- Westcountry Rivers Trust, invasive weed symposium,
26 October B Lush suggested that J Finch and D Pierce attend.
- NCDC, supporting village halls B Lush said he
had attended as Hall chairman, but though it was interesting there was
nothing to concern council.
- Living streets, London conference 15 November
cost £238.50 per person including VAT. No takers.
- NCDC, 30b Market Place B Grills had asked B
Jordan to check into the replacement uPVC windows which had been
installed in this building. Planning had been granted in June 2005 but
had not included planning about the windows. Planning department had
been approached and they will investigate.
- CCC, road closure from Romany to junction west of
Trecarne, Helstone 4 October for 3 days.
- Cheques for Payment
- B Jordan explained that invoices now have to be
initialled as well as the cheque stub as an added check under the new
regulations. A Shaw proposed, M Williams seconded that cheques for
payment be signed, all in favour.
- RESOLUTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COUNCILLORS
none.
- CORRESPONDENCE
- Lanteglos-by-Camelford Church letter of thanks
for £100 grant for grass cutting.
- Letter from Mr Graham Ferguson, a voluntary
paramedic responder, about vandalism to his car while he was giving
emergency treatment to a child. A Shaw said that it was a shame you
could not leave your vehicle anywhere. He said council must apologise
on behalf of the town for this. The parents of these children should
have more control over them they rely on others to bring them to
book. J Finch said the police had some time ago done a leaflet which
had been sent to the schools and to parents Do you know where your
child is?. Council should continue to work with the police. If nobody
comes forward about this there is nothing council can do. B Lush said
that there seems to have been an influx of newcomers into the town; at a
recent event he had not recognised anyone. M Williams said that the
level of vandalism had gone down but on a Friday night (no youth club)
there is a problem with kids from outside Camelford. Parents drop them
off (ostensibly to go to the youth club) and collect them later. A Shaw
said that now the new school term has started the youngsters meet up on
a Friday night. They are between 10 and 14. J Finch said all council
can do is speak to Sergeant Jones and ask for increased patrols. B Lush
asked if the support officers are now working.
- Letter from Camelford Association of Residents
thanking Cllrs Lush and Elford for all their work getting the bus
service resumed.
- Letter from Margaret Shillaber about the
Remembrance Day meeting on 27 September.
- Letter from Cllr Colin Brewer, Chairman of NCDC,
referring to his speech in council on 4 September saying that planning
permission is not needed to fly the flag of St Piran. Indeed, the flag
of St Piran can be flown with pride.
- PLANNING APPLICATIONS none
- PLANNING APPROVAL NOTICES - as agenda.
- PLANNING REFUSAL NOTICES none.
- COMMITTEE REPORTS
- Amenities Committee 6 September 2006 inquorate
and adjourned until 21 September 2006 at 7.30.
- Car Park Committee 11 September 2006 B Lush
raised the point of the £3 waiver which he considered would be gross
discrimination against people parking on Saturday. B Jordan explained
that the ticket machine will give a £3 ticket, representing an instant
fine. B Lush asked when the Town Trust was meeting again (21
September). B Ireland asked when the car park committee will meet
next? B Lush asked that, to achieve proper scrutiny of the lease he
proposed that all councillors receive a copy and discuss it at full
council. J Finch could not see a problem with that. M Williams said
the Town Trust said they would draw up this lease and it will be run
past a tame lawyer it had cost him a beer last time. It will be
simple like the youth club lease. B Ireland said that the clerk had
asked the Town Trust about the parking and what was the purpose of
this. J Finch said that the Town Trust had talked to the previous clerk
and they were considering introducing clamping because the area was not
policed at all and members of the Trust were quite distressed that the
parking was being abused. They wanted (and want) it used for short term
parking so people can go to the chemist or the bank or to the post
office. The Town Trust had no facilities to police the area and asked
council to do so. This had been put on the back burner, but the idea of
permits came forward when the off street parking order would have to be
changed, and if the Town Trust still wished council to manage their area
it could be included in the new order. D Pierce said that it was also
to stop abuse of the disabled parking areas. (authors note he
said this with a straight face and nobody even grinned I was
laughing) B Lush said that the problem was that people with blue
badges can park in the street for three hours. One lady always parks
outside the chemist now. He proposed that to achieve proper scrutiny
council members need to see the lease, seconded J Finch, 6 in favour, M
Williams abstained. J Finch said that if council can get a lease in the
next few days it can go out with the next agenda. B Jordan said that a
draft lease was already available and could go out. A Shaw proposed, M
Williams seconded adoption of car park minutes. 6 in favour, B Lush
abstained.
- REPORTS
- Camelford Town Forum next meeting tomorrow (20
September)
- CDCDT A Shaw reported that they had not acquired
the ground under discussion.
- Youth Club the committee is to be asked to help
design a t-shirt. B Lush added that the younger group are designing the
logo for the t-shirt.
- HERS A Shaw said that the funding would be OK in
spite of the problem with the lighting.
- Mayors report sponsor form for the mayors walk
to Liskeard given out money raised will go to a youth organisation in
the town. The council newsletter was shown and B Ireland asked about
the cost of having some of it in colour. B Jordan said he would be
printing it and B Lush asked about the total cost. B Ireland asked that
the Trefrew Bridge project be referred to by its name, Broadwood Path,
and that it was a Town Forum project with CDCDT. B Lush said that the
youth club is open for two evenings a week and one afternoon for the
ladies. The skateboard park has been repaired. The format of the
newsletter was proposed by A Shaw, seconded S Elford, 6 in favour, B
lush abstained. B Lush asked if that was subject to costings? J Finch
said it was a three month trial with distribution by hand.
- The press release about the distributor road.
County councillor Matt McTaggart and Dan Rogerson were willing to go to
London. Council must fight the South West Regional Assembly, which is
made up of 82 councillors, 3 from CCC, 3 from NCDC, others from other
district councils, 35 representatives from other organisations, in all
117 people. Meetings held in Exeter, next 20 October. D Pierce said
that the decision about the distributor road is the biggest blight the
town has received since he didnt know when. (M Williams said he had
had a thought that the South West Regional Assembly should be lobbied
and every householder in this town should have a list of those people
(SWRA members) to lobby them with thoughts about this.) There will be
people in the town aware of the problems, but not of this decision and
who has made it. A Shaw said this had gone on for several decades.
Cllr McTaggart had chaired the public meeting and is aware of the
feeling in the town. J Finch said that the town needs the road system
before the business park. Fifty more houses are being built and there
is no work for anyone. D Pierce said that the local parishes are
included in this as well. They should be made aware as well and lobby
SWRA. M Williams said that central government is using the assembly as
a shield, Department of Transport, No 10 and No 11 should be lobbied,
also letters to the national papers. B Lush said it seemed that the
SWRA has done this to us they have taken our money and given it to
Weymouth it was all to do with the 2012 Olympics. We (CTC) should be
writing to Seb Coe. M Williams said that The Times last Monday had
listed Camelford as one of the by-passes not approved. J Finch said
that perhaps council should get on to The Times. Camelford is going to
have to lobby and for a long time. M Williams said that this issue
should be put on to the next meeting with proposals for letters. D
Pierce said that the Town Forum should also be involved.
- B Ireland reported from the Finance Training Day
last Thursday this is important because there is a lot of work
involved. On the next agenda he asked that council create a Finance
Committee as it is council members who are responsible. He emphasised
the need for a Finance Committee. D Pierce asked if the new regulations
were mandatory. B Jordan replied that they are. On the issue of
setting a budget B Jordan said that they had been told that the best
guess is always going to be wrong. M Williams asked what software had
been used to create the budget. This to be an agenda item at the next
meeting.
- NEWSLETTERS AND CIRCULARS
- NALC local council review policy document
about council taking on more responsibility.
- DEFRA Rural standards review.
- ITEMS FOR 5 OCTOBER MEETING
- M Williams Distributor Road
- B Ireland Finance sub-committee
- EXEMPT INFORMATION
TO CONSIDER PASSING THE
FOLLOWING RESOLUTION IN RESPECT OF THE ITEMS LISTED BELOW
That the press and public be
excluded from the meeting for the following items of business on the grounds
that they involve likely disclosure of information prejudicial to the public
interest as defined in the Local Government Act 1972.
Court
summons Report from Beachcroft (solicitors)
B Lush had declared a personal
interest, but left the meeting under protest when told that this could not
proceed with him present.
Notes taken by Clare Ireland
and Eddie McCormick
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